March 19, 2025
Ulysses: New Misfit Affiliate Phase - E.346
The Misfit Athletics team unveils "Ulysses," their thoughtfully designed post-Open GPP phase named after Ron Swanson's middle name from Parks and Recreation. This jack-of-all-trades approach to programming serves as the perfect reset button after the intensity and specificity of the CrossFit Open season.
Stepping away from specialized training cycles, Ulysses embraces true CrossFit methodology by delivering constantly varied, functional movements across all time domains and modalities. Athletes will experience everything from heavy lifting days to monostructural conditioning, couplets, triplets, AMRAPs and more - all without bias toward any particular skill or strength domain. The goal is simple yet powerful: be stronger, fitter, more powerful, and more mobile than yesterday.
For coaches, this phase presents both challenges and opportunities. Unlike specialty phases focusing on a single lift pattern, Ulysses requires coaches to be ready with their complete toolkit, prepared to teach and correct varied movements each day. This mental engagement keeps coaching fresh and develops a deeper understanding of how different elements contribute to comprehensive fitness.
A significant addition to this phase is the introduction of "competitor extras" - supplemental programming for those wanting additional training volume. While this serves as an important affiliate retention tool, Matt and Hunter emphasize the need for coaches to have meaningful conversations about who should actually be doing extra work. Often, the barrier to fitness improvement isn't found in more volume but in refining nutrition, recovery, and movement mechanics.
Whether you're a longtime Misfit affiliate or considering trying their programming for the first time, the Ulysses phase offers the perfect entry point with its balanced, methodology-driven approach to fitness. Sign up for the two-week free trial starting March 24th and experience programming that's been field-tested and refined in their Portland "laboratory" gym.
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Chapters
00:00 - Introducing the Ulysses GPP Phase
04:02 - Post-Open Training Philosophy
09:10 - Coaching Challenges in GPP Programming
15:25 - The Art of Class Management
21:29 - Introducing Competitor Extras
31:05 - Who Should Do Extra Work?
43:09 - Final Thoughts & Program Benefits
Transcript
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We're all misfits.
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Alright, you big, big bunch of misfits, you're a scrappy little misfit, just like me.
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Biggest bunch of misfits I ever said either.
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Edition misfit podcast.
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We are going to be taking a deep dive into the upcoming misfit affiliate phase that we have named or at least I have named, ulysses.
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I'm going to tell you guys why.
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In this podcast here in a minute.
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Um, this gets started on monday, march 24th, and you can head to team misfitcom, click on the sign up now button, um, and you're going to have the option of signing up for a two week free trial.
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Um, we are.
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We're trying to get on as many programming platforms as you guys request.
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So right now we are on stream fit, sugar, wad and push press, um, and if we get enough recommendations for something different, um, then we will try to make that happen.
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So if you are a misfit affiliate or you want to be um and there's a platform that you prefer, please let us know um.
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So, ulysses, here's how this happened.
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Um, post open gpp phase really rolls off the tongue and it gives seb a beautiful, concise little snippet to use for marketing purposes.
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Um, obviously that's tongue in cheek.
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Now, naming these naming things is something that I have enjoyed in the past, um, and there's been a little bit of swagger jacking in my opinion.
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People decided that they were also going to start naming things.
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But guess what?
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There's no pun, there's no joke.
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They're literally just like name a workout, tecmo, super bowl, or fucking like long john silvers, and it's like that's.
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That's not what this is.
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You are not good at this game, um, so I stepped away from it for a little while, um, and now I'm back and post-open gpp phase to me is very cross-fitty in the like jack of all trades sort of category master of none.
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I want you to be pretty damn strong and pretty fit and pretty powerful.
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You know mobile, all that stuff.
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And when I think of Jack of all trades, I think of none other than Ron Swanson from Parks and Rec.
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I don't know if anybody out there is a Parks and Rec fan.
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Ron Swanson's full name is Ronald Ulysses Swanson, ulysses swanson.
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Um, so we have a parks and rec easter egg built in here.
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Um, because I can't just, it can't just be, you know, like, look up a random thing.
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Look at that mustache incredible, that's hard to be man plays the saxophone um, hates the government and does woodworking um.
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I'd say that's a jack right there right supposedly his character is based on a libertarian bureaucrat from california that the creators of the show knew and it's never been released who that was and there are some like theories and whatnot, but I just love that that there was some guy californian so in some guy in the government that wanted the government to basically stop existing.
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I really just love that, and if you've never watched Parks and Rec, I recommend going and watching it.
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Between him and Chris Pratt's character, andy Dwyer two of the best sitcom-, sitcom TV characters of all time.
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All right, um, enough of that.
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So, post open GPP phase.
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Um, here's the idea Open season happens, big hubbub and a lot of our our misfit affiliates, and it's kind of a lot.
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Um, it's a lot from the coaching side, it's a lot from the athlete side, and we like to have a phase right after that where it's very much just like back to basics or anything like that.
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It's like what will move the needle for athletes in a potentially less stressful, overly structured environment.
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And that's where this sort of concept comes from and it's like, okay, if that's the case, then what are we doing?
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Like, hey, coach, I want to squat heavy and I want to go overhead, I want to do some deadlifts.
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Maybe we throw some clean and jerks in there, some monostructural conditioning, some couplets, some triplets, some AMRAPs, some rounds for time, some chippers, all of these different things.
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We just really lean into the idea that we can get a great mix and, like it's an affiliate setting, so whatever day you show up, you're going to get a really fantastic workout.
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Um, I don't know if you think about it from a different perspective, hunter, but for me, I think the timing of something like this post-open is perfect.
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Yeah, I mean, I think about it a little more just from like the how do we make this fit into the calendar, sort of thing, but I think it's the right move.
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With the end of the open.
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We're just doing retest week right now, which kind of right on the end of the open.
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We were just doing retest week right now, which like kind of right on the heels of the open.
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May or may not be ideal, we may adjust that in the future, but yeah, I think it's just like a good time to.
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You can either think of it as like a transitional period where we're kind of ending this current training year and getting ready to start the next, or we can think of it as like here's a phase where you're going to get to see where, like, kind of all of your hard work over the last year has put you.
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Um, you know, it's like we we have had a lot of there's.
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There's always a little bit of structure in the phases that we have.
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It's not that there's no structure in this phase.
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We're just not biasing anything in particular.
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And you're still going to get to see your benchmarks.
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We got a couple classic CrossFit benchmarks good old 10-minute MaxCal bike test.
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That'll be a real hoot for folks.
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Lovely, yeah, you're going to be sick that day, but yeah, I think of it just more as kind of like a reminder that the the affiliate programming in particular is meant to be a GPP program, to be done four to six days per week in accordance with the CrossFit methodology, forever.
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And what that means is sometimes that like we're just focusing on fitness rather than like biasing the back squat or the deadlift or a clean and jerk or something like that.
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And you're just going to get all that stuff in the program already in terms of like when we are doing a lot of those other things.
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Part of it is it's stimulating physically, intellectually, to the programmer, to the coach, to the gym member, when we are throwing these small little biases into the program.
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There's a member retention, coaches, development, programming, development aspect that goes into that.
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But on the other side of the coin is like this type of program that's being written here is how we peak the fittest people on earth to become like we do the off season type stuff.
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And then it's like, hey, we're going to, we're going to jump into this and we're going to get you as fit as we possibly can now that we've laid the foundation.
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So, while someone might look at this and go like, oh, am I gonna like not get as fit as one of the other phases, it's actually not, not like the opposite, but it's like that's not the case, like when we do roll through these different things, your body is going to be able to react to the, to all these different stimuli to come together to create the type of athlete that you can be.
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So, um, I think, I just think it's.
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It's interesting to see it from potentially different perspectives like that.
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Yeah, and as a coach you have to be able to have that conversation with a member when they're like well, what are we?
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Why aren't we focusing on a lift this phase?
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Why aren't we focusing on a gymnastics movement this phase?
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And the answer is it's like well, like you, you're, you're doing CrossFit.
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Like 10 general physical skills across all three of your energy systems and just the general capacity to then having the ammunition to say well, what does it mean to be fit?
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And then you know whether it's rattling off the definition of fitness or probably a more kind of less, less esoteric version of that conversation for an athlete where it just says like hey, I want you to be strong, I want you just to be stronger than you were yesterday.
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I don't know Like you get an athlete who says like I just want to get strong.
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It's like well, what does that mean?
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And then they're like come to the right place.
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We're either lifting really heavy weights or weights 10 trillion times yeah.
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The answer is easy.
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Right, it's like, well, do you want?
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You want to get stronger than you were yesterday, like that's what you act, that's what the athlete actually means.
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Right, it's like I want to get stronger relative to what I am right now.
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And it's like, excellent, you want to know how you do that.
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You get fitter.
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It's like you come in, you show up four to six days a week, you take rest days when you're appropriate.
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You make sure that you have good mechanics, consistency and then intent.
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Like know, sometimes I'm just regurgitating the l1 manual, but let's keep you in check, don't worry, it's a good book.
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It is a good book, I agree, um, okay.
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So I want to talk about the coaching side of this a little bit, because I referenced it being professionally, intellectually stimulating to have those those pieces that we latch on to um at a certain point in the year because it's like okay in terms of my coaches, coaching development, like I need to to be ready to like have skill progressions in there and like, okay, this person's at this point in their journey with this gymnastics movement or lift, I gotta be ready for them, I gotta be ready for this person.
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The idea of needing to be ready for more modalities should also be very stimulating for a coach.
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Like I'm not going to be teaching the lift only day isn't going to be back, squat, back, squat, back, squat, back, squat yeah, it's going to be back, squat, overhead, squat, push, press, clean and jerk, like making sure that, like I'm thinking of a chef rolling out their knives, um, and, you know, choosing the right one to use within that moment.
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Like that's the way that I think about this stuff.
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Um, and honestly, is a lot of people ask us like, how did you guys get to this point in your career?
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And it's like the obsession with those kinds of things, the passion for those kinds of things, came before we ever knew what the fuck we were doing.
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So when I see a program like that, I love it because it's like okay, I got to dig back in, I got to be ready for every single one of these lifts on any of these given days, and they're going to have different styles of warmups in potentially different cues and all of that.
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Yeah, it is more.
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It is more engaging.
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As a coach, for sure, I've found it's like there's there is a nice part to being able to see, like hey, doing the same lift or a similar lift every week or every other week, because you get to see the progress of athletes from from a week on a kind of week to week basis, which has which obviously has its perks.
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And then there's the positive of being able to, like, improve your ability to teach, see and correct in a specific movement when you can get a certain number of reps of it.
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It's same with an athlete.
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It's like if I do pull ups once a month, like am I actually going to get better at pull ups once a month?
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Like, am I actually going to get better at pull-ups?
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Well, maybe, maybe not.
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But from a coaching perspective, it's nice to have kind of that GPP phase where it's like, okay, I do need to be ready to teach the overhead squat this week and then thrusters on Thursday.
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And then, like, what am I going to do when the workout of the day is AMRAP, 10 minutes air bike, calories?
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Like, how do I create a fun and engaging class that isn't just either 20 minutes of boring machine warmup, as effective as that might be, versus like, or do I swing too far in the opposite direction and just play games for 15 minutes and then stick the athletes on a bike, and you know?
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So how do I blend the right idea of fun?
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You know something that's valuable for athletes aside from just the?
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You know the workout of the day, so to speak.
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So yeah, I think it gives it opens up opportunities for coaches to think differently about how they might structure a class, how they might educate athletes, how, how they might, you know, do work through the teach see correct sort of cycle within a class that like AMRAP, 10 minutes, um, air by calories.
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Like when I think of the different coaches here at our gym, the different coaches that I've experienced, my personal journey as a coach, the same warmups that you're referencing in in different environments and explained in different ways in more or less time, of the coach talking versus you doing, like those that completely changes the environment in the class.
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Um, yeah, and that's another thing that you would have to think about.
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Going into the class itself is like it's not just that, sometimes like we're gonna put it on a platter for you, like we're gonna put it out there.
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It's gonna be like there's kind of a bunch of stuff to do in this class, but the movements are simple.
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So we got a really beautiful cue for the front squats.
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You know, build up to your heavy front squat and then we're going to focus on this portion of the total bar and the classes.
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You know sort of full of stuff.
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Um, that's one thing.
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But then when you see these other days, it's not just what's the cue, it's like is it being delivered?
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How is it being received?
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If I'm coaching multiple classes in a day, am I like sort of refining that?
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Like that's one thing that's cool to see here, something that kyle does really well, where he's like.
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I had this idea and I thought it was x, but it ended up being y, so like, and he'll relay to the other coaches maybe try this instead, like that sort of thing.
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So thinking about the like, how you are viewing what's in the day and what you're going to do about it as a coach, changes with all of these different styles.
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Yeah, it changes depending on who's in your class too.
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The way that I, the way that I for me, like a good example is I coach a lot of the 5 PM classes here, which are usually really busy, so between 16 and 20 people.
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It's the only class I can hear through my noise canceling.
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Yeah, it's a, it's a loud, it's a loud, it's a rowdy, it's a fun, very social bunch way.
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That I have to work through that class is like almost the polar opposite of how I have to work through a 9 am class or a 6 30 pm class, where there's it's a smaller group of athletes.
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It's a different vibe and because of just because of the number of athletes in class, the pace of the class is very different, like that big class is.
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You know, I like to think that I never get into a like just kind of group management stage where I'm just blowing the whistle making sure that the things run on time, but there is a greater element of being mindful.
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Scaling questions is actually five minutes in my head, because it's like this is just going to take longer, this is going to like.
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It's just the nature of the beast with a, with a larger class, and like, again, am I doing?
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Do I have 20 people?
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So it's like hey, half of the class you're going to do your Kip swings, let me see them.
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Ok, now the other half of the class versus like, if I only have six people, well, I can watch all of those people at once for the most part and it's just a challenges you in a different way.
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So don't you know when you're, when you are thinking about coaching your classes, it's important to think about, like, like we we talked about, I guess, in the last podcast, which we shot 20 minutes ago was like who who's this workout for, and like who is so and from the coach perspective it's who's in this class and what do these people need from a coaching perspective?
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Do they need more warm up time?
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Do they need more mobility time?
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Do we need to make sure that there's cool down time?
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Because I got a whole bunch of fire breathers who are going to light themselves on fire and without time in class to cool down, they will just get in their car and leave and turn into tin men later on that night.
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It's just like you have to think about the people that you're getting ready to coach as much as you're thinking about, like just kind of, the general layout of the class layout of the class and being prepared to coach a class is like it seems like a crazy thing to say, but I know that some people don't do.
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It is such a game changer for how people speak about your gym retention, all of that stuff.
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Like you're gonna have all the stuff hunter is referencing, like.
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As you work through it it becomes a little bit more innate.
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But when you're not prepared for it, there are some days where you nail it and a bunch of days where you don't, where you're like those things add up and then the class gets away from you, whether it's time or whether it's the attention that's there, and it's like hey, let's do a week review on the weekend and then a review, you know, sort of in the morning before you coach classes, and it changes everything because you can think about those things, especially if your gym has the like sign up for classes and you know who's who's on the roster.
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Um, I do want to talk about something that is a big change to the program but potentially not a change at all for certain people.
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Um, and I want, before I even say what it is, I want to frame it as a retention tool.
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This is what I believe this is what I am trying to accomplish when I am writing these things for your gym, because, like a story as old as time, in a CrossFit gym, since the open started, I follow X program during open gym.
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I'm in open gym and maybe a couple people train with me and it turns into zero people and then I'm either burnt out or want to do, you know, do X, y and Z, and then that member is not, you know, really actually a member at a CrossFit gym anymore.
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They just have access to equipment and the community aspect is lost, which we know is so huge in today's day and it's going to continue to be more and more important, right?
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People aren't at your gym.
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They're scrolling on their fucking phone.
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That's what they're doing.
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So we want them to be a human, we want them to come in and interact and move and be social creatures, right?
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So what we want here is to give you guys a competitor extra that is well-rounded enough for listen.
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I know hunter wants and we will address it.
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Hunter wants to talk about who this is appropriate for.
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I I hope that it's appropriate for almost everyone that wants to do it.
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I don't think that they should do it, but like if you need to retain that member by them staying 30 minutes after class and doing some deadlifts or some rope climb practice or whatever, I think that's okay.
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It's just your job as an affiliate owner or coach to kind of keep an eye on those people.
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And then there are the people that it is very appropriate for and the retention tool very appropriate for, and the retention tool.
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The concept here is I can give you what essentially amounts to one step below a like professional competitor program, fittest on earth.
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One step below that.
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Like we can check that box.
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We're going to do strength, we're going to do conditioning.
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If there's strength and conditioning, there's going to be a skill like.
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This is a very well-rounded program and it all fits together so I can show up to your class and I can execute and I can be social.
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Maybe I can even yank a few people with me like, hey, are we staying extra today to do the front squats or are we going to do zone two on our rest day or whatever it is.
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So it's not that we believe your members need to be competitors, it's that we believe that you need the option to have that retention tool to say, hey, do you want more and you know, maybe you have the trust built with them or you can tell them if they don't need more.
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Like do you want more?
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Here it is and it fits within the programming.
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It doesn argue both sides of the coin as to whether or not a competitor extra should even be like provided in a GPP style program.
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The reason I say that is because the number of people who need to do, who quote, need or would benefit from more than the one kind of workout a day is is small in my opinion and the the this is under the under 10 members per gym, something like yeah, some, a very small fraction of members and like need is not, it's a, that's a very subjective term right, it's like if, if the goal of that individual is to to get to a place where they are competing in the in the sport of fitness at a high level or have very specific fitness related goals, then like got it is that when it gets provided to athletes one, it's either the mindset of the athlete that's like if it's there, I need to do it, which is a problem, and that's a very common kind of trope that an affiliate athlete might fall into and then it's just like, again, if members have an understanding of how the CrossFit methodology is supposed to be executed, which is like you find it in the hundred words of fitness train, you know, regularly, train for train four to six days a week, regularly learn and play new sports.
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It's like four to six days a week with that one workout a day is all you need, assuming the program is well-rounded, which ours is like bar none when we start to add additional work.
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The question, I think, and this is where I think the retention tool or just from my perspective, it opens up the conversation for the athlete, opens up the conversation for the athlete, someone who comes to me and says like, hey, what's the weight on?
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What should I do about this competitor extra?
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What's the stimulus here?
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And it's like well, the stimulus is I need you to show me your macros.
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That's the stimulus, you know.
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So it's what it does for me as a coach is provide an opportunity to ask the athlete well, what are you like?
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Why is it that you feel the need to do more work?
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And is it?
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And if it is, if the answer is because you want to get fitter, then I'm going to go.
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It's like OK, well, so like, let's remember kind of the hierarchy here of how we obtain fitness, which like how's the nutrition, how's the sleep, how's the hydration?
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We just finished up a nutrition challenge where, like athletes made, with so many examples of athletes getting fitter in the gym despite changing nothing about their training and only changing their diet to meet what was pretty close to a 40, 30, 30, like traditional kind of CrossFit recommendation, fit recommendation, and it's just.
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It's just like the.
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It doesn't take long for you to poke holes in the athlete's plan and in a lot of ways, the athlete just wants to do more work and it's like OK, like maybe, maybe that's just it, but making sure that, like there's a level of accountability as a coach to say like hey, like here you want to do extra deadlift work, I got it, but here's the reality.
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Like you don't deadlift very well to begin with, so like let's not add, let's not do a thing that you don't do particularly well, more and worse.
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Like, if we're going to do this, like let's, let's, let's spend 10 minutes like actually learning how to hinge properly, so you use your posterior chain.
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I think that that conversation doesn't happen.
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I don't think the conversation about nutrition, about the other stuff that's actually going to move, that's the actual low hanging fruit for an athlete.
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I don't think those conversations happen.
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And it's just so much easier, it's so much more exciting for an athlete to just say like I'm just going to, let me just do another workout.
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It's like this has to work Right and it's like it'll work for a period of time and then it won't and then we'll be back in the same place that we are.
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And it's like again, if you're tell this to competitors, like if, if we're talking about moving on to like the competitive, like into the competitive realm, you, it's like there's not a single high level competitor that doesn't know exactly what's going into their body, that isn't sleeping the requisite amount to like to recover fully isn't doing, who warm up and cool down properly and do mobility that they need to do.
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It's like I can count on zero fingers the number of people like who fit that that requirement.
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So using the competitor extra.
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I just spent a whole lot of time talking shit about it and that's not the point.
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The point is to use it as an avenue to have conversations about with athletes about, like what it is that they're trying to get out of doing additional work and then helping them kind of come to the realization that, like, yep, this actually is appropriate for me and my goals, or oh, wow, there's a lot of other just super basic things that are going to move the needle way more for my overall fitness and health than doing some additional power cleans.
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So I think it's important as a gym to have the option to provide athletes with to say, like you know, we do have this as an option and it makes sense with the rest of the program from people who have written affiliate and competitive programs for over a decade.
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It is on you, as the coach, to make sure that the right athlete is doing this at the right, you know in the right time and is also just doing the other things that are necessary to actually move the needle for them.
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Yeah, I think about it in terms of who is the person and then how are they actually executing it?
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So, at the very base level, if someone wants extra work, I'm going to that zone to sell.
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Every single Thursday is written as a makeup day because we don't want more than five competitor extras.
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Five is the you know the amount of days in a week that we would want somebody training.
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So we have a makeup day where you can let people know what is coming up in the future, if you want to like, if people have access to that in your gym or, hopefully, a zone two session.
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So that would be the very start and I would be okay because it's moderated so well.
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There are parameters set around it.
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Um, honestly, it's probably going to be more recovery based than anything for most of your athletes.
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They have not learned how to clear waste.
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They're not going to be able to go very hard.
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Like like an unconditioned athlete's going to be doing 80, 90 Watts on a bike at a one damper, like hell, yeah, like that just sounds like someone who doesn't get the steps in that they should are going to come in and move.
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So that'd be the very first place that I would send people.
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Um, and there's no argument here about what's you know missing from crossfit or anything like that.
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Um, it's just again.
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Some people are parked in a chair all day and this might be the opportunity for them, one day a week, to really flush the waste From there.
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I would think about it.
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From someone like me, I would like to look at this in cherry pick like I'm going to fucking bench press today, or I'm going to push jerk or I'm going to do a monostructural piece on my favorite machine.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with an athlete doing a competitor extra every once in a while, just to just to be like, hey, that, like I haven't done this in a little while and that's what I want to do.
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I don't think any huge interventions need to take place in those scenarios.
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Who I think of after listening to Hunter is I do two to three pieces a day, five days a week, and no one is talking to me about my intensity or my body weight to strength ratio or things of this nature.
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Body weight to strength ratio or things of this nature.
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Um, and it's honestly, it's a fascinating topic because most of our fittest people hammer themselves to a point where they don't want to do anything extra.
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It's often this weird middle gray area where athletes don't push themselves to that place.
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Don't know, maybe don't know how to do it yet, and that's totally okay.
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Um, we have athletes that come from other gyms where it's just that their norm is so much different than what we're putting out there and it takes a while for the culture to kind of take over, and it's like if that was the case, how do we find a way?
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You know?
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Another thing that's a retention tool is that you fucking speak to your members Like you got a new person.
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That's a retention tool is that you fucking speak to your members like you got a new person that's coming in, wants to do the extra, but doesn't go hard like if you scare them away.
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That's not going to help anybody, right?
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Um?
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So that gray area of I need more because I'm not like putting enough into the single pieces, um is where so much of what Hunter was talking about comes into play.
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And you're just there's going to be a couple of people who are really into the sport, that are fit enough, that are going to do the competitor extra three to five days a week.
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Eye on them.
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You know when they're doing certain things, um, especially if they're coming from other gyms we have, you know, people show up that are competitors and it's like shit, man, I could probably add 30 pounds to your split jerk, just by telling you how to do it, versus you doing a competitor extra, like that sort of thing.
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So, um, that's where my mind goes when I think about it.
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I think there's there's unique circumstances for a bunch of it.
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So I think, encourage a zone two session, make that part of the culture.
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Um, which isn't honestly isn't hard to do.
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